Reading Zake Week 2: “i talk to myself” from Nappy Edges

by Sophia 12 Comments

i can’t quite remember how many questions or journalists or people have happened to me in the last year. i can’t even remember everything i’ve said. i know i tried to convey my perceptions of the world, of men & women, music & language, as clearly as i cd, but poets who talk too much can trip over their own syllables. can become absurd. like the time i told this woman that the most important thing that ever happened to me was my tail-cutting party. or the time i started crying in the middle of a question cuz the person waz so nasty to me i cd no longer speak. he said i had no right to exist/ so i said/ go speak to a rightfully existing person, a white man, maybe. that’s not good press.

tz: well. how do you explain loving some men who write & some men who play music & some men who are simply lovable, when yr work for almost three years has been entirely woman-centered?

i can do a lot of things. we all can. women haveta. i waz not able to establish the kind of environment i that my work needed when i read with men all the time. you haveta remember there’s an enormous ignorance abt women’s realities in our society. we ourselves suffer from a frightening lack of clarity abt who we are. my work attempts to ferret out what i know & touch in a woman’s body. if i really am committed to pulling the so-called personal outta the realm of non-art. that’s why i have dreams & recipes, great descriptions of kitchens & handiwork in sassafrass, cypress, & indigo. that’s why in for colored girls…i discuss the simple reality of going home at nite, of washing one’s body, looking out the window with a woman’s eyes. we must learn our common symbols, preen them and share them with the world. the readings i usedta do with david henderson, conyus, bob chrisman, paul vane, ton cusan, roberto vargas & all the others at the coffee gallery, the intersection, & s.f. state were quite high, but the readings at the women’s studies center, with the third world women’s collective, international woman’s day affairs, with the shameless hussy poets, these were overwhelmingly intense & growing experiences for me as a woman & as a poet.

the collective recognition of certain realities that are female can still be hampered, diverted, diluted by a masculine presence. yes, i segregated my work & took it to women. much like i wd take fresh water to people stranded in the mojave desert. i wdnt take a camera crew to observe me. i wdnt ask the people who had never known thirst to come watch the thirsty people drink.

I am drawn to print media because it exists as a result of us coming together to create something with our hands, and is experienced tangibly, in the solitudes where we meet. I revisited this passage because it addresses writing about oneself, being written about, and writing about others —in essence, the groundwork of all journalistic possibilities.

There’s a tension in the first paragraph that I’ve never thought of before; I was surprised when I saw Michele Wallace’s 1979 Ms. cover, because it was a radically significant amount of “screen time” to give a black woman, especially to talk about her own work. And unfortunately, today we are still focused on the mere incorporation of diverse bodies in our media. But what if the incorporation of those bodies functions to exploit them, as is the case when Shange is interviewed by a white man, probably for some highly circulating and well-funded (therefore “prestigious”) publication? It is mandatory that we write for ourselves. Thus, the creation of zines, independent mags, and other such publications is essential. Whose responsibility is it to circulate them? How do we compare the importance of external voices reading autobiographical subaltern writing to the act of subaltern communities writing themselves? How do we interview without exploiting the subject? Who has the right to witness thirsty women drink? How do we better distribute spaces like the women’s studies center, the third world women’s collective, etc. so more women can experience the feminine and poetic growth they provide? How do we expand the influence of low-or-non-circulating publications made by women and women of color beyond the healing experienced by those involved in its creation?

Comments ( 12 )

  1. Clarke
    These are all excellent questions and I look forward to begin answering them through your project! This week I revised my work plan for the semester, and worked on finalizing my definitions of bohemianism, bohemian feminism, and black bohemian feminism, using some of the literature in my reading list. I also scheduled a time for visiting the archive this week.
  2. Kiani
    Print media is a particularly interesting media through which to study Shange's work and one's self/the self/ identity. Both interdisciplinary and existing on multiple planes. Both making the intangible, tangible. I'm really excited to see how your work evolves and the research you get into concerning your project. Update: I have selected items from the Archives to scan on Monday at the ICP. Further, I am in the process of editing my Bibliography as I refine my project aims.
  3. Sophia
    After my small group meeting this week, I narrowed my project A LOT and am only focusing on the black feminist events/print media of 1979. I've created a new work plan, and have started compiling, going through, and more deeply reading new resources specifically relating to that year.
  4. Michelle
    Update: I updated my project plan, added readings to my syllabus, and scheduled times to contact people. I reviewed the materials that I found at the archives last weekend and selected the pieces that I will be using for the zine collaboration.
  5. Nadia
    During week 2, I finished making notes for my reading on My Soul is A Witness by Gloria Wade-Gayles
    • Amanda
      Hey Nadia, while visiting the archives earlier this week, I came across correspondences between Zake and Gloria. I also made note of a few things in the archive that I thought might be useful for your project...If you're interested, I'd love to talk to you about your reading of My Soul is a Witness. (I'm reading it, and Father Song ed. Wade-Gayles right now.)
  6. Amanda
    Sophia, you raise great questions and I look forward to following the development of your project. Your final question on "how do we expand the influence of low-or-non-circulating publications made by women and women of color beyond the healing experienced by those involved in its creation" I think will be answered by the literal materialization of your project, but I'm interested to see how your work further suggests answers to this question. Update: I selected items from the Barnard Archives to scan at the ICP, completed my work plan (will be updated as Gabby and I solidify project aims in the coming week), made a second apt at the Barnard archives for Gabby and myself, and I'm currently working on my reading list. To-do: re-write proposal//collab proposal, update & turn in budget.
  7. Danielle
    This week, I sent out interview requests, and received one confirmation from....Dyana Williams!
  8. Nicole
    Update: This past week I re-read the second group of articles that I wanted to pull quotes from for my site. I also found out that a good friend of mine has connections at the New York Public Library of Performing Arts. We both need to do research there and have made plans to go together!
  9. Yemi
    After meeting with Professor Hall and Tiana, I've been working on refining the scope of my project. I've created a rough sketch of the final outcomes I'd like to have, and what I believe the sources of those outcomes will be. I have also added and subtracted from my reading/research lists. In order to further give myself direction, I tried to find key terms and ideas that would be present in the metadata of the pieces I'm working with.
  10. Dania
    "you haveta remember there’s an enormous ignorance abt women’s realities in our society. we ourselves suffer from a frightening lack of clarity abt who we are. my work attempts to ferret out what i know & touch in a woman’s body. if i really am committed to pulling the so-called personal outta the realm of non-art. that’s why i have dreams & recipes, great descriptions of kitchens & handiwork in sassafrass, cypress, & indigo. that’s why in for colored girls…i discuss the simple reality of going home at nite, of washing one’s body, looking out the window with a woman’s eyes. we must learn our common symbols, preen them and share them with the world." This portion resonates with me because I feel like it is a reflection of why I am an Africana and Women's Gender and Sexuality Studies major and the reason I am committed to my extracurricular activities. There are places where I am able to have my salient identities be recognized and expanded on. "we ourselves suffer from a frightening lack of clarity abt who we are." And to be on the journey of finding clarity about who we are and to have someone/something try to take your stuff without permission or care or any form of regard is what Shange alludes to.
  11. Melissa
    During Week 2 I visited the Barnard Archives and discovered some of Zaki's journal entries around spirituality and motherhood

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